Critical Changes to Google Places Guidelines – Avoid Google Purgatory, Read Now
Why is this post so important? Because when Google makes changes to the Google Places Guidelines, however subtle they may be – it is almost always a precursor to a coming algo change that could result in your account being rejected or sent to “Google purgatory” which is even worse! If you don’t know about “Google purgatory”, see link at bottom of this post.
I need to let you know about a RADICAL new change to Google’s rules that could mean that ALMOST EVERY GOOGLE PLACE PAGE I’ve ever seen is now breaking the rules, (Including every single one I’ve optimized and I’m as white hat as they get!) But 1st, let me illustrate my point above, proving that SUBTLE guideline changes, if you don’t adhere, can eventually get you banned, rejected or left in “Google Purgatory” for months!
Awhile back, don’t remember when exactly – maybe July or so, Google added this VERY subtle change to the guidelines, then a couple months later companies started getting in trouble for violating it.
“Use the description and custom attribute fields to include additional information about your listing. This type of content should never appear in your business’s title, address or category fields.”
Small business owners just skimmed over it, because it didn’t sound like much of anything. Most didn’t even really get what it meant.
What Google REALLY meant in that subtle phrase was: Any words from your business title, address (city or state especially) or category fields CAN NEVER BE REPEATED IN YOUR DESCRIPTION or you can have your Google Place page pulled off the net and have to fight for months to get re-listed!
What happened was that not only were spammers in trouble for blatant keyword stuffing but totally innocent small business people were getting caught in the cross hairs left and right. Once Google tightened the algo that meant ABC Plumbing in Atlanta could not have a plain old normal sounding description that read “ABC Plumbing is a family-owned local plumbing contractor. We’ve been serving the Atlanta GA area for over 20 years”. (5 Google violations in that simple statement!)
SO NOW ONTO THE NEW IMPORTANT CHANGE (Sorry to ramble, but for those that don’t live Places every day like I do, you have no idea how important these changes can be until you get banned or rejected and can’t get out of purgatory. NOTE: I’ve never had a single client rejected, pending review or banned, but read numerous accounts of it happening, every single day in the Google forum.
NEW GUIDELINES ABOUT GOOGLE PLACES CATEGORIES
Categories should say what your business is (e.g. Hospital), not on what it does (e.g. Vaccinations) or things it sells (e.g. Sony products or printer paper). This information can be added in your description or as custom attributes.
Again, subtle, but VERY important if a new algo is on the way that’s going to penalize for violating this guideline. This brings up a myriad of questions and concerns for me.
1) For those that don’t know it, the category section is where you put the most important keywords you want to get ranked for. Keywords in description and custom attributes, just don’t carry much weight with the OLD Google Places algo. (With the new Place Search algo everything is different totally different and there’s a way to compensate for this guideline change but that opens a whole other can of worms I won’t go into now.)
2) “What your business is, not what it does or things it sells” Man there are so many ways to blur the lines here. Creative copy writing could get you everywhere, or maybe get you banned! Who knows how strictly Google is going to enforce this???
I’ll give you some concrete examples from the Dental clients I work with.
A sampling of main keywords (categories) many Dentists want to rank for are: Dentist, Cosmetic Dentistry, Dental Implants, Teeth Whitening, Invisalign, Porcelain Veneers. The core KW Dentist is fine because that’s what he “is.” But the rest are all PROCEDURES (as in G’s example Vaccinations). Those are things a Dentist “DOES”. So do they all have to go???
OR??? If I change Cosmetic Dentistry (what he does) to Cosmetic Dentist (what he IS), will that work? (Separate, important issue is that Cosmetic DentistRY gets a whole lot more searches!)
Google has a default category of “Teeth Whitening Service”. So if I tack the word ‘service’ onto teeth whitening and some other KWs, does that make it OK?
Instead of just the KW Invisalign, one of my Dentists has the key phrase Invisalign Dentist and he still ranks really high for Invisalign. So if we say he’s an Invisalign Dentist (what he IS) as opposed to just the word Invisalign (a procedure and brand name product he offers) will that fly???
AGAIN, WITH THE NEW ALGO, much of this can be worked out by making changes to your on-page SEO. But 3 big issues tie into that.
1) For MANY of the Dental keywords above Google is still showing the old 3 pack or 7 pack layout which is still uses OLD local ranking algo.
(Same with what I call 2nd tier KWs in other industries)
2) Most people (including most SEOs I’ve talked to – much less SMBs) don’t understand the new algo enough to know how to change their site in order to compensate for these category issues, much less all the other changes the new Place Search Algo requires. (And then even much less than that, about all the new hooks that need to be in place!)
3) Even for me it’s a REALLY big issue, because I’ve only been doing Places as a service. I don’t do organic SEO or change people’s web sites. So even though I have the new algo figured out (as of today) I have not decided the best way to help my clients with all the other changes they need. I’m not going start doing it ‘all’ and I also don’t want to have to interface with, explain, educate and cajole every client’s web master, designer or SEO to make all the changes that I KNOW this new algo requires. That would be like trying to push a rope!
INDUSTRY PEEPS – for the Internet marketers, Google Places optimizers and LOCAL SEOs that read this blog and who I talk to by email, phone or forums – #3 is a biggie. I’m in numerous forum discussions right now where many of us are trying to decide how to morph our business (if we currently only do Places) into what the client ultimately needs due to this new algo.
Sorry, I digressed again, but this change really affects a lot of things for someone like me who is in the business of trying to help companies with their Places ranking.
OK so here are the new Google Places Guidelines.
There are other important changes too, so read with a fine tooth comb. THEN read it again and try to read between the lines on any other subtle changes that relates to your situation or your Place Page.
Then go read Mike Blumenthal’s blog about this and follow the commentary over there for more important insights as the word spreads on these changes and people possibly figure some things out. Google Places Updates Quality Guidelines. Oh and a big KUDOS to watch dog Mike for catching and reporting on the new Guidelines right away.
If you are reading this and you are a Dentist or small business owner, these questions may sound like splitting hairs. However TRUST ME when I say that if you are getting good traffic and lots of new customers or new patients from Google and the phone stops ringing because you are banned, you’ll realize that these small details are not something you can overlook.
For small business people that have not learned the ways of Google Places yet, imagine it’s like finding a secret mysterious message in a bottle at the beach. You read it twice, decide it has no importance for you and throw it in the trash. Then maybe weeks later when you face the consequences of not heeding that warning, you realize that secret ominous message was written specifically for you – you just didn’t realize it at the time, because you did not stop to analyze the deeper meaning.
I’ll be talking to others and doing research about this to try to decipher Google’s deeper mystery message that’s hidden in the bottle and try my best to come up with some recommendations.
OH and in the 1st paragraph I mentioned getting a Google Places rejection or going to Google Purgatory. Read Mike’s post about that below.
Google Places – You Are Not Rejected, Not Suspended – You are in Places Purgatory
Carpal killing, signing off for now.
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#1 John Deck wrote on November 22, 2010 :
First off great post. Probably the best summary of the issues at hand with doing and managing Google Places listings.
The big underlying issue is not the guidelines but how they are implemented in the algorithm. Your point that changes show up in the guidelines and then in the algorithm is critical. Remember one group writes the guidelines while an engineer(s) implement them.
Not being able to use terms in the description that are in the business title is a good example of not being able to provide valid content to a reader that Google claims is their purpose.
It’s hard to image a local business owner being able to claim their Places listing and not violate the guidelines in some way.
One commentary I saw that it just made a lot more work for the local online consultants.
John Deck
#2 Nathan wrote on November 22, 2010 :
Hi Linda,
Great post. Unless I read it wrong you say this above “For those that don’t know it, the category section is where you put the most important keywords you want to get ranked for”.
Google however says this………”Categories should not contain location-based information (for example, Dog Walker Los Angeles is not permitted)”
Interestingly enough I have noticed that most people are using key words with city names
#3 Linda Buquet wrote on November 22, 2010 :
Thanks for weighing in John!
“It’s hard to image a local business owner being able to claim their Places listing and not violate the guidelines in some way.”
Exactly! And too often innocent business owners get penalized as if they were spammers due to over zealous changes. BUT the spammers do need to get reigned in for sure, so I guess G is always walking a fine line when trying to tweak the algo.
#4 Linda Buquet wrote on November 22, 2010 :
Thanks for catching that Nathan! I should have spelled it out better.
“Unless I read it wrong you say this above “For those that don’t know it, the category section is where you put the most important keywords you want to get ranked for”. ”
You read it right, but I should have written it more clearly I guess, for those that don’t know the rules.
When I said keywords I meant regular keywords like landscape designer, cosmetic dentist, Asian restaurant – not geo keywords. City, state or zip should never be added to categories, Place title (unless officially part of the business name) and per the previous revision of the guidelines, not in description either.
#5 Google Places Quality Guidelines Comparison | Understanding Google Maps & Local Search wrote on November 23, 2010 :
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#6 Michelle Hartman wrote on November 23, 2010 :
Hi Lynda,
Something else I’ve noticed since the new guidelines have been published is that Google has removed many of it’s own categories!
Now this really is going to lead to some issues IF Google chooses to penalize any listings that use categories that they have subsequently removed!
Now call me picky but if any of my listings were ‘sent to Purgatory’ for this reason I’d be very upset.
I’m really interested to see how people are getting on with creating there own categories, and how accepting Google is of these. I’ve already had to start creating them myself as Google has removed the only suitable category they did have for one of my clients, but would welcome some feedback from others too.
#7 Linda Buquet wrote on November 23, 2010 :
Yikes Michelle, hadn’t noticed that in my main market yet, but it seems to be getting harder and harder to just plain fill in a Place page as a biz owner, much less try to optimize it.
Pretty soon it will be name, address, phone and 1 default category and nothing else on the page!
#8 Linda Buquet wrote on November 23, 2010 :
FYI all,
Mike Blumenthal just posted a great play by play, side by side comparison of the old and new guidelines.
Google Places Quality Guidelines Comparison
#9 Nathan wrote on November 23, 2010 :
What does Google local have to say about how to address the “additional details” secion of the business listing? Use keywords, city names…..or not?
It’s hard to figure Google local out. I see so many businesses that abuse the business listings (ie: using keywords with city names in the catagories section, description, company name, etc…) however are benefiting from doing so.
Mine has mostly followed protocol however recently i updated it even more following Google local protocol and now my listing does not appear in the local search for certain keywords. why am I being penalized while others are not?
#10 Nathan wrote on November 23, 2010 :
Google tags has also changed things a bit. I have heard that paying the $25 per month will help people appear on Google Local more easily.
However what happens when everyone starts paying the $25 per month for Google Tags?
#11 Linda Buquet wrote on November 23, 2010 :
“What does Google local have to say about how to address the “additional details” secion of the business listing? Use keywords, city names…..or not?”
The way I do it is to do as Google suggests and add ADDITIONAL details that aren’t already listed in name, city, cats or description – to be on the safe side.
However I DO list other cities besides the city they are in, if they serve other cities as this is common info that’s often on their site or yellow page ads, so I believe should be fine.
“Mine has mostly followed protocol however recently i updated it even more following Google local protocol and now my listing does not appear in the local search for certain keywords.”
That could in part be due to the new merged algo which is totally different than the old Places algo used to be and ranking relies more on site optimization and organic SEO.
“why am I being penalized while others are not?”
Many of us believe that many Places that break the rules and still stand, are ones that have not been edited for awhile. We think that Google probably is not actively spidering every Place page, since so many are unclaimed or dormant. However once you edit the listing, that triggers the spider to come visit and says “hey lookie here – we have a live one!” Then it checks your listing to see if it’s up to snuff with all the latest guideline changes.
#12 Linda Buquet wrote on November 23, 2010 :
“Google tags has also changed things a bit. I have heard that paying the $25 per month will help people appear on Google Local more easily.”
Tags don’t help ranking, just help your listing stand out. I personally don’t recommend them to my clients as they seem too buggy and many people report all types of flakey problems after adding them.
“However what happens when everyone starts paying the $25 per month for Google Tags?” Then G will probably come out with a bigger or more feature rich way to stand out for 100 a month. Mo Money!
#13 Google Places Quality Guidelines Comparison | Mapsys.info wrote on November 24, 2010 :
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#14 Randy Kirk wrote on November 28, 2010 :
Thanks Linda. Great insight. I’m mentioning this post in my blog.
#15 Linda Buquet wrote on November 29, 2010 :
Thanks so much Randy. I read your post over the weekend, but didn’t get a trackback from it. So I’ll post the link here.
Oh and thanks for calling me a SEM guru!
Google Places Changes the Rules on Listings
#16 Rhea Decroo wrote on November 29, 2010 :
Have you ever considered including videos for your web site posts to keep the visitors even more entertained? I mean I just went through the entire article of yours and it had been quite great but since I’m way more of a visual learner, I found that way to be significantly more useful. well, let me know what you think.
#17 David wrote on December 9, 2010 :
Places is like the wild-west all over. It’s freaking chaos, honestly.
From one industry to the other, there’s no rhyme or reason it seems. For ‘cosmetic dentist’ searches in my area, all the Places listings come back with the actual site Titles instead of the Places titles. Ok….uh….what?
For a client in another highly competitive ‘service’ industry, ALL the Places listings have been optimized to include location and service description in the title – I guess they’ll slam us all, then?
Oh, and may I vent for one moment : Can Google PLEASE stop turning off the damn yellow tags every 30 days in the Places accounts! Even when you re-activate them and select the tag, half the time it doesn’t actually activate the right tag. Arghhh, I swear they’re getting sleazier and sleazier every month. Have you checked the adwords forums lately – quality scores are dropping left and right….
Anyway, thanks for the update. I’ll review those new guidelines….
#18 Linda Buquet wrote on December 9, 2010 :
Hi David, yes wild west is right! Places can be sooooo frustrating!
Feel free to stop by and vent any time.
I’ll even join you!
#19 Linda wrote on December 10, 2010 :
Linda,
Are videos and images as important to places as it was in the past algo? I hate to change the subject, but I am wondering how hard I push my clients for these additional pieces. My clients usually serve multiple areas, so leaving locations out is tough. Do they obtain multiple places listings? As long as actual locations and numbers etc. are unique?
#20 Linda Buquet wrote on December 10, 2010 :
Hi Linda,
Well I’m not sure how important images and vids were to ranking in the old algo, (not according to my tests) but G does prefer a complete profile.
HOWEVER according to Google in Matt McGee’s blog today the old 1, 2, 3 and 7 pack are with us for now and they STILL use the old Places algo.
Google Places Isn’t Testing New Layouts … Get Used to Variety
“My clients usually serve multiple areas, so leaving locations out is tough”
??? Did you see somewhere that says you can’t add locations? If the biz is located in one city you should not add that city to title or anywhere else. Google knows the location based on the biz address. Do you mean other nearby cities they service? I don’t see a problem and add that to the additional details section, just don’t overdo it.
Google wants businesses to represent themselves as they do in the ‘real’ world. Many times a Dentist in a certain city will have on their site, yellow page ad, newspaper ad, etc. serving the south county area including city a, b, c. So I just add area served: a, b, c to additional details. I only add what’s true and representative and never more than 6 or so cities. HOWEVER now with the new merged algo, ranking in those other cities is going to be largely dependent on how well their site is optimized for those.
If the client has different physical locations they can have a Place for each one. And yes it helps a lot if each location also has a separate address.
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#22 Georgeq wrote on July 7, 2011 :
Google places maps still listing old categories. Is there a way to remove the cached categories?
#23 Linda Buquet wrote on July 7, 2011 :
I’m fighting with that now too and have a thread going in the GP forum.
Keep an eye on this thread in case Google offers solution. Vanessa already commented, but not sure I agree.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Places/thread?tid=56392e82acc4b3ef&hl=en
#24 Nathan wrote on July 7, 2011 :
I’ve had some issues with Google Places recently. I moved my office and changed the address on my google places account. A month or so later I ended up having a duplicate listing. ……One with the correct address and no reviews and another with the incorrect address (the one that contains all my reviews). Googles only remedy was to delete one of them along with all of my reviews.
I viewed a Google video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn79kBaVGLo from Joel with Google who said they have the ability to combine the duplicates thus saving all your reviews. That is not what the customer service rep in India told me when she called me. I was not able to keep my reviews.
My account still shows duplicate listings.
#25 Nathan wrote on July 7, 2011 :
Here is the post I put on google places forum. I have not received any comments or help yet.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Places/thread?tid=64b2bb5bfbf1477c&hl=en
#26 Linda Buquet wrote on July 7, 2011 :
Hi Nathan,
I’m really sorry but I’m swamped trying to help my existing clients so won’t be able to investigate this in detail for you.
Suffice to say when you move it’s VERY hard to deal with Google, hard to delete and merge and hard to keep all your reviews. I know people who continue to fight for months on these issues.
Hopefully someone here or at the GP forum has time to research and give you some ideas.
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