Give your Google Place Page a Good Poke – a Poke FAQ
How do you POKE a Place page? Why should you poke it? What type of problems can a poke solve? How often should you POKE it? (See tech Google support emails below.)
This post will be remedial for some of the Places pros that read this blog. But I’m amazed at how many companies I do ADVANCED Places training for that don’t know about this trick. In training I refer to a POKE as your new 2nd best friend in the Places game. Many companies I train work on Place pages daily, but their core focus is more on SEO or building vertical turn-key sites and Places is just a value-add service they offer. So they don’t have a 100% Places focus and therefore don’t know some of the tricks of the trade, like how to poke, why to poke and when to poke. I’d say about 65% of my training clients don’t know what a Poke is and most that come to me for training are pretty serious professionals, so that tells me lots of my other readers especially business owners, likely don’t know what a poke is either.
WHAT IS A POKE? A poke is technically called a “null edit”. I think of it like rebooting a computer when it gets slow or buggy. Sometimes it just fixes it for some mysterious reason. A poke won’t fix every type of problem – but it’s a quick, easy, non-invasive troubleshooting step, you need in your tool box.
WHY POKE? What the poke really does on the back end, is send a signal to Google that this listing is actively managed and the data in this dashboard should take precedence. Now that does not mean it always will. Remember when Google started sending those emails saying – warning your info is about to change? The way they told you to suppress the change was to do a null edit.
Also if there are multiple owners of a listing like: the secretary you fired created a listing too with some funky address formatting and you can’t get the log in, so your address keeps changing to the bad format. Well in cases like that, the last submit wins. So a poke tells Google to pay attention to the data in YOUR dashboard instead of hers.
WHAT PROBLEMS CAN A POKE HELP? When something is a little buggy on a listing – like the address on live Place page does not match what’s in dash or categories are off. I’ve even seen Google recommend a poke to snap a listing back from pending review if it’s compliant, but just stuck. AGAIN it does not work for everything but it’s a quick, easy, non-invasive troubleshooting step.
HOW TO POKE – Poking is easy. Log in – click edit, DON’T CHANGE ANYTHING, then hit submit. Pokes used to be pretty much instant, so if you poked you could tell right away if it fixed the problem. However with the current back end dataflow, it can take a few days before you know if the poke worked. So poke, wait 4 days and if still problems, use the troubleshooter.
HOW OFTEN TO POKE – Google support is now telling users in problem follow-up emails to poke on a regular basis. (See support emails below.) I see some guys on the forum that have missing listings due to all the service area business problems that say they are poking their listing several times a day. Bad move and overkill, I say! I recommend poking once a month, even on normal healthy listings, which I think is a proactive step that could prevent problems like Google changing the address on you.
Snippets below from 3 different support emails that recommend “regular pokes.”
(This one was in reply to a missing listing G was trying to revive)
“To ensure that your listings contain the most accurate information possible please continue to freshen the data on your listing from your account by clicking “Edit” from your dashboard, then clicking “Submit” to send your information to Google Maps on a regular basis”
(This one in reply to a partial merge)
“Please continue to update your listing from your account by clicking “Edit” from your dashboard, then clicking “Submit” to send your information to Google Maps. Doing this regularly will ensure that your listings contain the most accurate information possible.”
(This one I believe was in reply to a pending review)
“If you sign into your Places account, click “Edit” on the affected listing, and then click “Submit”. Within a few days, your listing should show as “Active” from your account and link to your live listing on Maps.”
What do you think? Did you know all about pokes?
Have you poked your listing lately???
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#1 Darren Critchley wrote on June 28, 2012 :
I had already been doing that for a client of mine, without even knowing it was a poke.
A weird thing has happened to my clients places listing though, for the most part it has completely disappeared for all but one term. I have no idea why, or even how to fix it and a Poke didnt do the trick.
Has anyone else lost a listing or have it not come up at all? This listing used to be first to fourth for about 20 different terms, all local.
#2 Linda Buquet wrote on June 28, 2012 :
“I had already been doing that for a client of mine, without even knowing it was a poke.” Maybe we should call that an unpoke. (unconscious poke)
Pokes won’t normally help with ranking other than the fact that if Nap or cats are screwed up and it helps that, it could indirectly help I suppose. There could be a wide variety of things going on, from ranking penalties only on specific categories to duplicates to poor on-site SEO for those other keywords. Hard for me to know without doing research.
#3 Ron wrote on June 28, 2012 :
This will take more than a poke, but what suggestions for a long time places listing that now when I login to dashboard I get:
“There is no data for your request”
It shows all the information for the listing on the right side but I can’t see the part of the dashboard that lets me change anything. I can also still see it in search results.
Thanks, Ron
I can still see it when I do searches but I can’t see the d
#4 Linda Buquet wrote on June 28, 2012 :
When you go to the locations screen is the link to view this listing on maps gone and the stats gone?That sounds like part of the problem you describe)
Let me know if the locations screen looks like this: https://business-a-googleproductforums-com.googlegroups.com/attach/5de0a2950a4c01ea/Google%20Local.JPG?view=1&part=4
If so the listing is in a state that we fondly refer to as purgatory. It’s dead. Occasionally it happens due to a bug, but most of the time it’s due to violations.
There are 2 different scenarios and 2 slightly different solutions. Let me know if view on maps link is gone and I’ll try to explain where to go from here.
#5 Pankaj Kumar wrote on June 29, 2012 :
I have tried this thing with one of my client whose listing was not coming in searches.
And this works for the client. Now they are having the active listing and coming in searches.
But I was not aware that this process has a name as POKE.
Linda thanks a lot for clarifying the term and also make it understand in such a great way.
Thanks
Pankaj
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#6 matthew hunt wrote on June 29, 2012 :
Linda, I “poke” all my clients sites at least once a month. It’s standard practice for any serious local seo’er.
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#7 Linda Buquet wrote on June 29, 2012 :
Hey Matt, yes I agree. I don’t think that many folks realize it though. Mainly just a few old pros like us.
#8 Ron wrote on June 29, 2012 :
Fortunately Linda everything came back today and I have complete access to the dashboard. There are no volations in this listing.
#9 Linda Buquet wrote on June 29, 2012 :
Oh yea! Thanks Ron!
#10 Mark wrote on June 29, 2012 :
Pokes used to be more effective at getting listing information reverted to what is in your edit screen; however, like many things with places recently Google is taking away what used to be instant and replacing with a process that can take weeks. Look at photos for instance, previously instant and now take up to a month in some cases. I agree with Linda on the approach to poke and then wait 4-5 days before sounding the troubleshooter alarm. Just know that there are other options if poking doesn’t do the trick.
#11 Linda Buquet wrote on June 29, 2012 :
Thanks Mark. Yep, she sure likes to keep us on our toes. Always changing!
#12 Duffie wrote on June 30, 2012 :
Thanks for the article and the new word.
I think your comment that we need to “Poke”
our listings at least once a month is valid common sense, I need one myself every day! So easy to let things slip and lose placment.
Good stuff, thank you.
#13 Chris Alphen wrote on July 1, 2012 :
Hi Linda,
Thanks for all you do. Sorry for being a little off topic but would you kindly have a look at this
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/business/pYwR5otB_1E
Thanks
Chris Alphen
#14 Linda Buquet wrote on July 1, 2012 :
Hey Chris, sure. Am a little jammed today but will try to get to it later.
#15 Marie wrote on July 1, 2012 :
Very interesting! And you were right I have never heard about a poke. Now, I must go and poke a few Places pages just for the fun of it. thanks for going back to the basics as sometimes the basics are over looked!
#16 Joy Hawkins wrote on July 2, 2012 :
Great post Linda! We do this to fix issues all the time but you are totally right – not enough people know about it!
#17 Bill@Security Window Film wrote on July 3, 2012 :
Thanks for the info Linda. I’m by no means an expert when it comes to Google Local listings but I thought I knew all the basics at least. I wasn’t aware of this “Poking” and that it can solve some of the problems with the Places listings. I will now be poking my account at least once a month as per your instruction.
#18 Eric Jackson wrote on July 3, 2012 :
Linda – Any insight into who coined the phrase “poke”? A once a month poke will now be a part of my strategy. Thanks!
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#19 Linda Buquet wrote on July 3, 2012 :
Hey Eric, I used to hear people say “tickle” the listing. That’s a good one too!
I think I 1st heard the term from Vanessa and not sure she coined it or maybe that was a common phrase internally with Googlers. But after seeing it once, it stuck for me! Now everyone on the forum calls a poke a poke and it’s just part of our forum vocab!
#20 giovanni wrote on July 9, 2012 :
Thanks for the info!
I have a listing that I have optimised about a week to 10 days ago and it’s not shifting at all! even though I added a kml file and a load of other stuff ect.. I will try poking.
The listing is also not pulling through the photos on the listing, even though they are uploaded in the dashboard. I’m not sure what to do apart from wait I guess.
#21 Linda Buquet wrote on July 9, 2012 :
Google says photos currently can take a month to show up live. I suspect photos uploads is just broken and they aren’t going to fix it because G+ is right around the corner.
Pokes won’t help for ranking issues really and adding KML file won’t necessarily affect ranking directly either. Have you done on-site LOCAL SEO? That can have the biggest impact but can take a little longer to move the needle.
#22 Linda Buquet wrote on July 11, 2012 :
GOOD POKE STORY…
I had a Dentist listing go MIA with do not support yesterday. I knew no violations or anything so suspected just a data hiccup. Did a poke and it worked right away to bring the listing back.
NOTE: We’ve been told pokes currently can take a few days, but by time I checked 15 min later listing was back up at #1 again. (Technically DOUBLE #1, because he’s #1 organic with one page and now back in the A spot in blended with another page.)
#23 PLUS Local Ranking Factors You Need to Know | Search Engine Journal wrote on July 17, 2012 :
[...] When speaking of this topic, I feel the need to reference a great quote by Leonardo Davinci that states, “Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.” This is most definitely the case when it comes to “Poking” our +Local (Places) pages, as it is incredibly simple, yet it has a great impact. Recently Linda Buquet, a Local virtuoso and a Google Top Contributor, wrote a fantastic article about Places Page Pokes. [...]
#24 chris wrote on July 18, 2012 :
hi Linda, thanks for another excellent tip. This leads me to a question where someone I know had talked with Google and they told him once you submit your listing, don’t change it b/c it will cause the process to take longer. So is it not good to change something like a category or update a description after I had originally submitted.
thanks,
chris
#25 Linda Buquet wrote on July 18, 2012 :
Chris, I’ve heard people say they were told that by support as well. The main thing about that is right now the pipeline is slow as far as data updates on the back end. So I agree I would not make tweaks just for the sake of making tweaks. But pokes are non-invasive and Google recommends it all the time.