Important News about Google Places Update Cycle and also Missing Descriptions
If you have missing Google Places descriptions or info that is not updating or think you are in the Google Places new listing sandbox and wonder how long you’ll be there – you’ll want to read on.
One of the big questions that keeps coming up about the July 21st Google Places update is why did descriptions disappear? Everyone thought it was a bug. Google employees confirmed it was an “issue” and was being worked on. Vanessa confirmed in the forum that descriptions were not removed as a result of the update. I started a thread on July 6th about the missing description bug. Weeks have gone by, descriptions continue to go missing, but we’ve been unable to get an update from Google on the Google Places forum.
Well I just got an answer from Googler Joel Headley in one of my Google+ streams about the missing descriptions problem. He also confirms the current length of the Google Places update cycle – which is MUCH longer than people realize. Wanted to share the info, since I doubt many people will see Joel’s comments hidden in my +stream.
Below is a link to my Google +stream where I air concerns about many of the recent Google Places bugs and problems. Joel has commented 4 times so far with some important insights. I’ve only copied a few snippets, you need to head over to read the whole stream.
Google Places Bug Makes Listings Disappear for 6-10 Weeks! They call this a HICCUP???
Linda – Aug 11 – NOTE: Due to lack of updates about bugs or guidance about what to do (like hold tight, don’t make any changes, we are working on it) people in the forum are giving TONS of users bad advice that will just make the problems worse. (I share some examples and links.)
Joel Headley – Aug 10 – We all agree. We’re working hard to make changes to the current system so that updates happen faster. Unfortunately, improving infrastructure that holds the world’s place information takes time. Please know that everyone at Google wants updates to happen in a more reliable way.
Joel Headley – Aug 12 – Regarding the description not appearing — we did a change that forced descriptions to go through a longer update pipeline than other information on the Place page. So, just like a new listing that doesn’t appear in searches when they’re first added vi Google Places for business, description require a longer update.
Linda – Aug 13 – So does that mean that if edited, a description will take 6 – 10 weeks to show up? Can you confirm that’s the current average update cycle?
Joel Headley – Aug 13 – That’s is correct. We’re working on improve the update cycle now, though.
So in summary, there is currently a 6 – 10 week update cycle. Plus if you make edits you can expect the description to disappear for about that length of time. If you have a new listing that’s a REALLY long time to have to wait. If you have buggy things going on and you are waiting to see if they clear up in the next update, that’s a REALLY long time to wait!
TIP: I’ve been adding a “post” on my listings to supplement the missing description. I do some nice friendly copywriting and add some warm or helpful info about the business to help it stand out a little instead of just having that big empty blank white space. I’m careful not to totally repeat the description because we know G does not like KW repetition PLUS when the description comes back I don’t want it to be totally redundant. Just remember posts only last 30 days.
There is lots more info in my + stream above. I suggested someone from Google do some announcements in the forum to help all the users that are stressing out and trying tricks to get a description to show up that are going to just cause more problems with their listings. Google has not posted yet, but yesterday I posted updates in the 3 primary threads that deal with the missing description problem to try to let people know what the situation is.
Read Joel’s other comments and stay tuned for more, at this Google+ stream.
UPDATE: 1 PM PST – Mike Blumenthal just informed me on Google+ that many of the descriptions on Places he watches just came back. I checked a couple and mine came back too. So either Google just fixed/changed that feature or there was just an update.
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#1 Important News about Google Places Update Cycle and also Missing Descriptions - Google Places Optimization Blog | Google Places Optimization News and Tips | Scoop.it wrote on August 15, 2011 :
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#2 Nyagoslav wrote on August 15, 2011 :
I am relatively new to SEO as a whole, but I heard that in the early 2000′s the updates of data on the organic algorithm were also happening monthly. It is good to hear some reliable confirmation of that from a Googler, but at the same time I still don’t understand why that change with the description update. Furthermore, as I’ve been saying – I don’t think it’s only the description itself, as the description is part of the “Additional Details” block, although it appears separately on the Place page.
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#3 Linda Buquet wrote on August 15, 2011 :
For a long time GP updates seemed to happen every 2 weeks though. So the length of time to wait between updates has gotten much longer.
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#6 MiriamEllis wrote on August 15, 2011 :
Linda,
Thanks so much for the update on this. There are so many times when you know you need to edit a client’s description, but understanding that this can cause it to disappear for MONTHS certainly makes that idea less appealing.
BTW, I had commented awhile back on a post of Mike’s regarding the lost descriptions saying that I would like to get your current opinion as to whether the old rules (that were removed from the guidelines several updates back) of not repeating words in the business title or categories, nor using geographic terms, are still applying.
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#7 Linda Buquet wrote on August 15, 2011 :
@Mirima said: “I had commented awhile back on a post of Mike’s regarding the lost descriptions saying that I would like to get your current opinion as to whether the old rules (that were removed from the guidelines several updates back) of not repeating words in the business title or categories, nor using geographic terms, are still applying.”
Oh sorry Miriam, missed that question at Mike’s.
Yes I do think they sometimes still penalize for that. So I always make sure not to repeat anything from name, address or cats in the description. That goes for the more details section too. Even tho that section no longer shows I still add quite a bit of relevant data there, but am super careful not to repeat anything.
#8 Linda Buquet wrote on August 15, 2011 :
Mike Blumenthal just informed me on Google+ that many of the descriptions on Places he watches just came back. I checked a couple and mine came back too. So either Google just fixed/changed that feature or there was just an update.
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#9 MiriamEllis wrote on August 15, 2011 :
Linda,
“Yes I do think they sometimes still penalize for that. So I always make sure not to repeat anything from name, address or cats in the description. ”
The reason I’ve begun to wonder about this is those examples that have been showing up in which the description has been pulled from Wikipedia or some other entity. Everything is in them…business name, category repeats, geographic terms. Everything we’ve always considered wrong.
#10 Linda Buquet wrote on August 15, 2011 :
Good point. I still err on the side of caution though. Plus I wonder if they don’t look at scraped 3rd party different than they do when the description is from the owner.
#11 Ellen wrote on August 16, 2011 :
Hi Linda,
Thanks so much for all the work you have done to get answers to these questions. I was pleased to see that 2 of the 3 clients we have who had missing/old descriptions are now updated. We have also been using the posts to add information until the descriptions are updated.
The information provided by you and others who comment on your posts is quite valuable for us who are helping businesses with their Google Places. Thanks again!
#12 Linda Buquet wrote on August 16, 2011 :
Hey Ellen, great news on your clients. Glad the info you find here is helpful. Thanks!
#13 Mercedes wrote on August 17, 2011 :
Linda,
Great info! I noticed that GP was taking forever to update – its hard to believe its now 6 to 10 weeks! Thanks for asking Google the though questions and finally getting some answers from them.
I did notice that my GP descriptions returned but a lot of my A and B listings just got bumped form the first page entirely. I am wondering if it was from an update I did during the cycle or its it from this latest Google update. Have you heard about other first page rankings falling off after the descriptions came back?
I going to give it a few days to see if it works it self out before I start freaking out. Thanks again!
#14 Linda Buquet wrote on August 17, 2011 :
Mercedes, I just saw this report in the GP forum. Maybe this is you or someone from your company??? If not, than it appears you are not the only one having this problem.
“Description Update Error: Listings In A And B Spot Gone”
LocalMapKahuna
Level 1
12:09 AM
After the description section returned to our GP page our ranking fell from the A and B spot to off the first page entirely. Is this a GP content issue or a Google glitch?
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Places/thread?tid=0f5343832f968297&hl=en
#15 Google Place User wrote on August 17, 2011 :
I just checked my business listing and there is no description appearing yet. I also changed from 5 categories, to just 1 category, and all the categories are still showing. I’ve been waiting over 6 weeks.
This is completely unprofessional and ridiculous on behalf of Google and I wish someone would start a class action lawsuit against them, but I guess if they have not promised something you can’t.
After a business listing is verified, why are updates that the business owners make not published and updated immediately on the internet? I think they do it purposely to force you into purchasing their paid advertising products. Wake up Google. This is America, not a communist country.
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#17 Mike wrote on August 19, 2011 :
Thanks to the comprehensive report. I know its mandatory for Google to make updates and developments but the changes very abrupt and you have to change your marketing strategy from monthly or even weekly to cope with these changes.
#18 Cheryl Reid wrote on August 23, 2011 :
Hi
Hope this may helps. My url disappeared off google places 23/8/11. I went into
edit and added http:// before www as I have been told that this
helps google find your site easier. Still waiting to see if this has worked
#19 Sab wrote on August 25, 2011 :
Thanks for the information. So Google Places has also updated. This will be another big problem for online marketers that target local clients.
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