Google Venice Update – New Ranking Opportunities for Local SEO
Google is constantly making subtle search updates and makes hundreds per year. BUT when they go so far as to “name” an update it’s usually worth noting!
For the most part the local SEO community I think missed or misinterpreted the new Google Venice update. And there is a good reason for that. Most of us in the ‘biz’ are so focused on the local MAPs based results. The packs and blended results. PLUS most of us in the biz when we do client research and ranking reports are checking City + Keyword or Keyword + City, so not many people noticed the subtle change that rolled out.
Google announced 40 updates at the end of Feb. I blogged complete details here. Today I want to focus on the Venice update and some new ranking opportunities for local business. OFFICIAL GOOGLE BLOG QUOTE BELOW:
Search quality highlights: 40 changes for February
Improvements to ranking for local search results. [launch codename “Venice”] This improvement improves the triggering of Local Universal results by relying more on the ranking of our main search results as a signal. (Bold by me)
I’ve seen Venice update speculation that I think misses the mark and is looking at changes to pack and blended results. I bolded Universal because I believe this update has to do with the pure organic results. Figured it out a few days ago and promised some folks I’d share, just haven’t had time til now.
The update is already live and results are subtle BUT THERE IS A BIG OPPORTUNITY for those that figure out how to capitalize on it.
Remember this post I did back in November 2011? Important Google Places SEO Group Research re GEO Modifiers, Search Behavior and Rank Tracking If my research is right 3-4 time more consumers search for KEYWORD with no city modifier. “We” search Atlanta Dentist, Tampa Plumber – but many consumers at least start off simply searching Dentist or plumber. Then I think if they don’t find what they are looking for they refine their search and add city. I think Google agrees with me and keyed into this search behavior.
ENTER CODENAME VENICE – Previously if you searched for a local service without city modifier, you’d see a set of pack or blended MAPs based local results. HOWEVER the organic listings would be national. They would be general research sites that ranked high or associations or national sellers. You would not normally see LOCAl results in organic if you didn’t add city to your query. That’s now changing.
No time to grab screenshots, etc. I’ll just share one example and hopefully with your browser if you replicate what I’m doing you’ll see the same results.
Search term Family Dentistry but change location to USA. That’s what the OLD organic results looked like. There are some general national results. There are some Dentists that happen to rank high BUT they may be across the country from you. NOW search Family Dentistry and change your location to Altanta. See quite a few Atlanta Dentists now in ORGANIC??? Then change location to Tampa and do the same search. Now there are Tampa Dentists. Another good test is compare “Dentist” with location set to Atlanta. Then change location to Beverly Hills. For both you’ll see some national results like Dental directories and Wikipedia but you’ll ALSO see LOCAL pure organic results.
IMPORTANT TAKE AWAYS
For the keywords I have spot-checked in a wide variety of US cities, it seems there are usually 3 – 5 local organics mixed in with the national results.
If my research is right and 75% of searches are for “cityless keywords” then this is a huge opportunity that didn’t exist before – to get your clients on page one EVEN IF they are outside the proximity radius, or have dupe problems or some other problem and can’t rank in Places. Now you have a shot at getting them in the local ORGANIC results.
Many of us started off with or used to primarily focus on Google Places. But now with blended results I assume most of us are focusing a lot more on organic SEO to help get high blended rankings. However lately we are faced with changes like the reduced local footprint (Some 7 packs now only showing 3 listings). Additionally many have noticed local queries that no longer show map based results at all – ONLY organic. So Venice presents more opportunities to get your client to rank on page one even IF you can’t get them in the local maps results.
RANK TRACKING – This makes it even more important that ever to be sure your rank tracking software will check rankings for KEYWORD only, with location emulation to simulate a search from the client city. That’s one of the biggest reasons I recommend Places Scout (See my update about ranking reports for keywords without geo modifier at the top of the post). You can set it to track rankings BY location for keyword only searches – most other tracking programs like Bright Local don’t, although last I heard they were working on it. (It’s very difficult to do and Mark and I went round and round trying to figure out the best way to not only make Scout do it, but best way to display it in the reports so it made sense. The feature in Scout is called “location emulation” if you want to use it.)
So let’s say my (admittedly very limited) research is wrong and 75% of searches aren’t “cityless keywords”, let’s say it’s only 50%… That’s still huge. If you are getting your clients ranked on page 1, whether it’s blended or pack or local organic for lots of keyword, don’t you want to be able to know and track it? Don’t you want to be able to tell your client – “YEA! You are on page one for the keyword Dentist” (not city Dentist). I sure do!
THE GOTCHA and another GROUP RESEARCH PROJECT
I haven’t had time to totally figure out what triggers a page one LOCAL ORGANIC in Venice. I believe it’s somewhat based on traditional organic factors but I think there is more to it. If you search City + Keyword and see who ranks in organic. Then search keyword only with that city set as your location in Google, the same results don’t always show. So for example the #1 organic listing for City Dentist may not even be there as a local organic when you search for Dentist only in that city. Plus which keywords pull a Venice and how many listings show up seems a little inconsistent. Maybe this is still rolling out or they are still testing.
So if anyone has any ideas about what triggers the organic LOCAL Venice results, or has some good examples, or any other insights – do share!
There are just a handful of other bloggers, mainly from the UK that have come up with the same theory I have about the Venice update. Here are their posts if you want to read more and view some screenshots.
Google Venice update showing locally targeted organic results
Google Venice Update – Big Changes Based On Locality
How the Google Venice Algorithm Changes Your Local Search Strategy
Google’s Venice Update & Location Specific Results; The Big Questions
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#1 Dave Oremland wrote on March 5, 2012 :
Linda:
That phenomena and opportunity has been in existence for a long long long time. I’ve been practicing it for years. Plenty of well optimized sites that combined both organic and G Places elements have taken advantage of it. If people who write about the phenomena are only now seeing it its because they’ve focused on the maps side and not the organic side.
This site is a prime example bartending school has gotten high rankings for industry related phrases for probably 6 or 7 years with Google rankings toward the top of the industry. They were there before universal search, they are there now.
Its been an opportunity for smbs for years, though certain types of businesses can better capitalize on the opportunity then others.
Currently it appears that Google’s presentation is favoring the Places list of businesses on the top and its expanded with a larger list of places.
The universal search results do show local businesses without geo modifiers.
There has been some considerable amount of actual hard research on this topic over the years. Some of it is several years old. The estimates were that around 1/2 of potentially local searches didn’t include geo modifiers. In other words instead of searching on terms like Atlanta dentist, Atlanta doctor, Atlanta Italian restaurant, etc. people in Atlanta would search for dentist, doctor, and Italian restaurant.
For years, if well optimized, local smb sites could appear at the top and at the top in a mixed organic/places type of listing.
Its not a new phenomena at all. I think what is new is the way in which Google is now presenting data with more of that being prevalent with a greater number of smb sites showing in the Places/Universal results for those searches w/out geo modifiers.
Its clearly not new though. I’ve been using it for years.
Dave Oremland
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#2 Dave mac wrote on March 5, 2012 :
the question i have linda is how does one optimize for a kw without the local modifier?
you take out atlanta from atlanta dentist…do you pack link to just the kw dentist?
ive been trying to rank a client how is “a” spots all around but yet i cant get him ranked without the local modifier
#3 Linda Buquet wrote on March 5, 2012 :
Well no you still OPTIMIZE for City + Keyword, because these are STILL local results.
I don’t do backlinks for clients because I can usually get them ranked with some really smart local SEO on-site techniques + local hooks. And like I said have not had time to figure out this algo. But backlinks or the type of backlinks could be part of the equation.
#4 Eric "eRock" Christopher wrote on March 5, 2012 :
Hi Linda! I noticed the same shift about 1 month ago. We are working on our own site for a broad, national KW phase that gets a few thousand hits every month. We thought we were ranking #5 on page 1.However, when I traveled to contribute to a local search conference in a different state, I did the same search. Guess what? The first 3 spots were the same, but the rest was local! Also noticed it when you search for “carpet cleaning in Mesa AZ”. Only 2 maps results blended into organic. Looks like ranking for national or international terms is on the big decline.Lastly, when have always made it a point as an option to the client to offer them to push up their other local web 2.0 properties, so that their competition de-ranks organicly as well.IMHO, if you doing local SEO, the winners will be those who do Local SEO and traditional, organic SEO. You will have to learn both, as it was to easy before to rank locally. Hope this helps!
#5 Linda Buquet wrote on March 5, 2012 :
Good points all. Thanks for weighing in Eric!
#6 Linda Buquet wrote on March 5, 2012 :
@Dave, glad I checked spam can because your great post was hiding there for some reason?
Thanks for all the insights! Makes sense!
#7 Bill Bean wrote on March 6, 2012 :
Linda, these are some valuable insights. Our jobs are definitely getting more complicated as the “game” becomes more nuanced. These changes are definitely more widespread now, which is great news for local clients, and not-so-great-news for national clients whose keywords sometimes trigger the local results.
For what it’s worth, when it comes to anchor text, I think diversity is helpful. So for those who are doing it, use anchor text with and w/o the geo modifier.
#8 Ewan Kennedy wrote on March 6, 2012 :
Hi Linda,
I picked up your post via Andrew Shotland’s blog.
I’m seeing very clear differences in the UK in the last few days and have have included some examples in my blog post today (link to yours included).
I had a minor geo-targeted page appearing at number five in the main results on a (de-personalised) search for “SEO”. That’s unheard of for the page in question or indeed my site.
For various reasons, I deleted that page today, so we may be able to learn something from the effects of deleting it. Was my “service” + “town” page necessary to rank where it did or will my home page now replace it?
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#9 Jim Jenks wrote on March 7, 2012 :
Very good info, thank you. I’m still working with on getting more proficient with our local SEO so it’s always good to hear about different changes so I don’t make silly mistakes and get discouraged.
#10 Scott Dodge wrote on March 8, 2012 :
I’m seeing some really weird things in the localized SERPs.
Like, for example, a huge national (and publicly traded) storage company’s homepage ranking #1 for broad terms like “Storage” with no location modifier, and my location set. However, the closest location they had to my set location was 10 miles away.
Oddly enough, I went back to try and take a screenshot ~2 hours later, and the SERP had changed. Went from 2 organic results up top with a 3-pack of blended results, followed by 5 organic results.
Now, I’m seeing 1 organic on the top, 3 local non-blended results, followed by 6 organic results.
Additionally, I’m seeing a good deal of affiliates w/ EMD’s now ranking strongly that certainly weren’t present before.
Of course, these were all logged-out, non-personalized searches using Incognito mode.
Also, I did some analysis of citations for certain niches in certain markets, and I’m seeing some listings with considerably LESS citations ranking very well. I know sheer volume of citations doesn’t constitute excellent rankings, but I think this is a bit odd.
For example, I saw things like:
#1 has 140 citations
#2 has 30 citations
#3 has 110 citations
etc.
I’ve seen others comment on the idea that smaller local businesses can benefit here, and bigger, national brands might take a dive due to a lack of a strong local presence. However, I’m seeing the exact opposite.
Generally speaking, I think this is a big update, and I’m personally seeing many changes in one of my local verticals. I know SERPs tend to be a bit shaky after updates, so perhaps that explains what I’m seeing.
Regardless, I’m really curious to see where this goes.

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#11 Linda Buquet wrote on March 8, 2012 :
Thanks Scott. Yep she keeps movin and shakin things up!
#12 Brands Exposed wrote on March 9, 2012 :
This month has show some amazing movements and changes, our clients have seen some massive changes in the property and estate agency markets, I think the main problem is it still does not know where i am!, I am sat in Leeds and Google think I am in Birmingham!
Still some way to go to get it perfect!
#13 Jeff Downer Indianapolis, IN wrote on March 9, 2012 :
I agree this change represents a wonderful opportunity for local businesses. Has it been entirely rolled out yet?
#14 laureen wrote on March 10, 2012 :
Thanks for sharing this post, I was not aware the changes is doing by google is it already implemented ?
#15 carpet cleaner buffalo wrote on March 12, 2012 :
This has always frustrated me as a local service provider, if you just punch inn the keyword no city all the national franchises would be top. but i agree we have been mixed in for awhile now just hard to make it to top.
#16 Jason Habing wrote on March 13, 2012 :
Lisa,
I actually found your website through the SEOMoz post on the recent Venice update. I found this article very helpful…
I am looking to get more proficient with Google Places so you can bet that I will be browsing through your blog for nuggets of information.
Keep it up,
Jason
#17 Linda Buquet wrote on March 13, 2012 :
Hi Jason, thanks for following me over here.
#18 IT Chimes wrote on March 13, 2012 :
Hi I believe this might be good and bad for some. Good for those who know more of local and can show themselves on the belended results. Bad for the ones who are national and have competition from local. I tried several queries and it works with few of them and it doesnt for some of them. Is there a way to know how google is judging it. I think that would give an edge over this.
#19 San Luis Obispo Marketing wrote on March 22, 2012 :
Really great insight Linda, appreciate it. Unfortunately, by the time we get used to this update, the new Google update will be on the horizon and we’ll all be scrambling in a different direction again. I think the best takeaway from these updates is to control what you can, and that’s on page seo and site content. I can’t imagine these ever becoming unimportant, while the importance of backlinks and other off page seo fluctuate regularly.
The fact Google is sort of in a fight for its life against Facebook, I’d also assume “social” will continue to gain importance, as well.
So…. write good local content for the smallest market you can afford to and share it rather than link it.
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#20 Liza wrote on March 27, 2012 :
Great Article and Great Tips…..very useful to any one who want to do a local search ranking…
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#21 Not Being Rude wrote on August 13, 2012 :
Linda: Not trying to be rude but I have read a couple of your blog posts and found grammar and usage problems. It makes your point very hard to understand. Today bloggers/SEO just can’t afford to make these mistakes. In fact you should go back and fix the “Important Google Local SEO…” page because the post states “My research so far suggests surfers search for keyword WITHOUT geo modifier 3-4 times MORE than with without.” Confusing
#22 Linda Buquet wrote on August 13, 2012 :
Thanks for the feedback. I admit I’m terrible at proofing my own work, because I know exactly what I MEANT to say and so don’t catch mistakes.